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Ratzmandious
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| old idiot wrote: | | At the risk of being hounded off of the forum, I mean this in terms of getting government out of making social legislation: |
I think that we in the forums are all open-minded enough here to allow you your opinions, even if we vehemently disagree with them... not that I do... ;)
What I really object to is people who hound anyone because of their beliefs, be it political, religious, moral, or even fashion sense... 
| old idiot wrote: | | ... and hire myself out as a hooker in order to make a quick buck (not that anyone would hire me)... |
As a funny little aside... when my family moved to the states in the 80's, one of the things my mother had to do to get her green card (besides paying a very large amount of money), was to pledge not to be a prostitute.... I find that a very interesting comment on the mindset of those who make the policies...
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I find that incredibly interesting, too. And, it was brought to you by the same folks who came up with the "Just Say No" campaign. Drugs and sex. It really worked well, didn't it? (Who me? Nah, I'm not bitter........!) 
"...and thank you for your support!" .............Bartles and James, ca. 1977
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Koolbeans
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Dear, dear O/I....
Point the first: agree. Point the second: vehemently agree. Point the third: agree 100%. Point the fourth.... Oh, hell with it--let's make this simple.
YESSSSSSSS!!!!!
My long-lost twin, I think I have found her at last! 
I think my only disagreement would be the legalization/regulation of prostitution. I just don't think there's any way for that profession not to be exploitative of women, and I can't handle that in any form or fashion. But otherwise...
Yeah. Sing it, sister. That'll ('scuse me, can't help it ) but that'll preach!
~ Beans
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Ratzmandious
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| Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Erm... what about male protitutes...? ;)
Not that I'm volunteering, mind you...
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Koolbeans wrote:
| Quote: | | Yeah. Sing it, sister. That'll ('scuse me, can't help it ) but that'll preach! |
Hmmmmmmm.....I've never been accused of preaching before........ ranting, yes; being arrogant, many times; wrong, frequently; full of s**t, often; but never, ever preaching! That's a new one. And, one that I think that the members of the World Bible Conference and the Grace Brethren Church back in Winona Lake, Indiana would take issue with. (I'm going to a fiery hell, you see, for all eternity according to them.......)
But, thanks, Beans?!? I think?!? It is, indeed, nice to know that I'm not alone out here............ and how come is it that we can't seem to make our voices heard? Are we that much in the minority?
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| Quote: | | Erm... what about male protitutes...? |
| Quote: | | Not that I'm volunteering, mind you... |
Yeah, Ratz? Why not?!? Seriously, though, what's good for the goose is good for the gander............
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I thought about editing the original post to say
" I don't care who you are voting for, just if your mind is made up".
No way am I voting for someone who has to state that he as more executive experience than the opposing Vice Presidential candidate to deflect from his own lack of anything more concrete than "change".
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vexxarr
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: Trans Fat vs Food |
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| old idiot wrote: | | I want the government to stop legislating the use of trans fats, banning fois gras from menus, and generally shaking its finger at us and saying "That's not good for you so we'll take it away." I've been a mom, I don't need one! |
Actually to get nit picky...trans fats aren't a food additive. They don't contribute to taste or texture and substitutes like real butter taste far better. Trans fats are a manufacturing stabilizer useful in the mas production of foods and food additives like margarine. Trans fats assist in ingredient cohesion, longevity (something I'm not sure good tasting food should have) and assist with machine lubrication in large mixers. Trans fats are unnecessary in modern food production and fatty foods actually taste better when they are removed. Again, trans fats aren't in the food to make it taste better, they are in the food to facilitate in manufacturing and storage.
I usually agree that I don't want the government telling me what I can and can't eat but trans fats are so bad for you that they belong on the same list as things like lead and read dye #1. The government shouldn't be telling me how many cheeseburgers I can eat but the government should keep the amount machine-process additives to a minimum. Seriously, cut back on trans fats - eat more butter and bacon.
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Ratzmandious
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| Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: Re: Trans Fat vs Food |
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| vexxarr wrote: | | Seriously, cut back on trans fats - eat more butter and bacon. |
Well I'm all right then!
As for politics... I tend to favour the anarchist option... or failing that, true democracy.
And let me tell you, the instant you allow a political party to form, you've lost any vestige of democracy you once had. So let's just ban political parties and allow every prospective representative stand on their own merits (or lack thereof).
Britain has even more of an issue with political parties than the U.S. has, by the way. We don't even get to elect our leader - they just happen to be whoever is leading the political party who has the most seats in parliament.
So in our current scene, we have a prime minister who gained power through the resignation of his predecessor (after 10 years in power). And he doesn't have to call for a general election for another two years.
The good news (!!!) is that the way things are going, his party seems to be in a terminal nose dive. The bad news is that none of the other parties seems to be particularly better.
Still, I look at American politics with a wry smile. 
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Ratzmandious wrote:
| Quote: | | .....the instant you allow a political party to form, you've lost any vestige of democracy you once had. |
I blame Alexander Hamilton for all of this...... It's a good thing Aaron Burr shot him when he did. At a point in our history when, with the advent of the internet and the availability of many different, inexpensive ways to access it, a truer form of democracy in this country is more possible now than ever. But, it will not happen in my lifetime. At least until the American people (baaaa, baaaa) decide that that is what we want. Until then, we have a republic with all of its attendant problems. And, it looks as though the Constitutional Monarchy isn't much better.
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| Quote: | | ....cut back on trans fats - eat more butter and bacon. |
Believe me, butter is all I DO eat! The issue is pie crust. Yes, pie crust. Trans fats were invented (discovered?) and supposedly used as a healthy alternative to lard. Now, as everyone knows, (I think....) lard or rendered pig fat, makes the very best pie crust and french fries. The idea behind the trans fat was to make vegetable fat semi solid at room temperature, thus providing a more healthy alternative to lard, which is not good for you. (Who knew that McDonald's fries were better for you BEFORE they switched from lard?!?)
I was raised to make pie crust with Crisco, not lard. I wouldn't know how to use lard if you asked me....although I suppose I could learn. (See? I'm resistant to change just like everyone else!) So, now, the formula for Crisco has changed and it handles differently, being much softer. As a result, you have to be a lot lighter handed when making crust in order to get it flaky, not tough. (Butter doesn't work. I think there's too much water in it? Maybe?)
Anyway, I make pie once a year at Thanksgiving. I think that my body could handle a few pieces of pie once a year. And, I shudder to think how much trans fat I've consumed over a lifetime of Crisco use. I know its not good for you, but the trans fat ban was just the latest in a series of government bans that pissed me off. Sorry, Hunter.
To make up for it, everyone is welcome at my house for Thanksgiving! I make wicked good pie!
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